August 31, 2005
CA officially selects a religion
Christians are now persona non gratis in the University of California school system. The state of California is now officially, according to the University system, a state sponsor of the naturalist religion and no other religions will be tolerated or allowed in the University system.
In related news, the United States Air Force agrees to punish Christians as well.
The University system is now rejecting any course that has been taught by any private, home, or religious school that contains any reference to creationism or intelligent design; or even any that actually mention that FACT that Darwin's theory of evolution is actually a theory.
They are also rejecting any history course that mentions Christians, including a course called "ChristianityÂ’s Influence on American History," even if the courses are actually based on facts. Since the course NAME contains the word "Christian," it is verboten in the California University system.
This is what happens when the government gets too involved in the education system. The STATE has no business, indeed NO need, even no real reason to be in the business of education. The state does not need state schools. The entire state university system should be scrapped -- private institutions will very quickly and easily take their place.
Unfortunately, there are too many with vested interests in the state-run education system for reason to enter into the system. Watch this case closely, as it will likely reach the Supreme Court (after getting through the morons on the 9th circuit court), and could have a very far-reaching impact on ALL education and religion in this country.
(Hat tip to Cross Blogging).
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I expect to see the ACLU jumping all over this any time now!!!
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Posted by: birdwoman at August 31, 2005 08:02 PM (Sc2Wh)
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Sure, sure. That's the ACLU, standing up for religious liberty everywhere, right? Hello? ACLU?
*chirp, chirp*
Posted by: Ogre at August 31, 2005 08:09 PM (L0IGK)
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August 17, 2005
Marine Student Fined For Being Marine
Nice story out of Texas today. It seems a Marine was told he had to pay a fine for being in the Marines. He was
denied in-state tuition from a community college because he had spent years in Iraq. He has current and active bank accounts in Texas; a voter registration, and a TX driver's license -- but no in-state tuition, so the Community College doesn't consider him a resident.
Here's a tip for you, Carl Basham: tell them you're from Mexico. If that doesn't work, you're free to come to North Carolina and tell the community college here you're from Mexico -- that gets you "in-state" tuition rates in this state.
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Disgusting! Here in PA, if you are active in the Military, you don't pay state taxes (you do in other highly military states like VA). Anyway, If he paid taxes in Texas, doesn't that count? Also, does that mean he is a resident of Iraq?
Posted by: Oddybobo at August 17, 2005 05:06 PM (6Gm0j)
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I wonder if they'll still let him vote.
Posted by: Ogre at August 17, 2005 05:37 PM (L0IGK)
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I can't believe the residents of TX are going to put up with that. Someone big will get wind of this and it'll go away...
Posted by: Bou at August 17, 2005 09:57 PM (5JHEt)
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Sure, they'll change it now...hopefully. But that just goes to show the ignorant rules that get invented by government idiots.
Posted by: Ogre at August 17, 2005 10:02 PM (L0IGK)
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How ridiculous!
I don't get it. As a military dependent, I have been able to move to other states and as long as there were proof of orders, I was able to get instate tuition.
He should get to go to a community college for free in my opinion.
What a bunch of bull!
Posted by: Sissy at August 17, 2005 10:23 PM (uXS+O)
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Yes, but then you weren't hated by liberal academic quite so much because you weren't the actual baby-killer, just the innocent dependent.
Posted by: Ogre at August 18, 2005 06:11 AM (L0IGK)
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A few things, Texas does not have any State income taxes, just sales taxes, property taxes, sin taxes, lottery taxes (oops, that's another issue), so there are no records there, but it DOES show he filed his FEDERAL taxes as a Texan for the last few years even tough he was either in Iraq or stationed in other states.
Second, he DID enlist in the USMC while in Louisianna (his parents moved there and he had to finish high school there, but that was at least 6 if not 8 years ago now). Personally, Sissy, I'm with you in a way. In one sense you CAN go to a community college free as a veteran, because you have the Montgomery GI bill and in Texas (which this veteran SHOULD receive) the Hazlewood act (which pays either 2 or 4 more semesters in full once the GI bill runs out). My thoughts are these, if you are a veteran, once DISCHARGED (other than dis-honorably), you should be able to go to ANY state to begin your education and be GUARANTEED in-state tuition, only once you've chosen that state and started school could the other 49 states charge you more. Trust me, we have the state comptroller and a few state representatives battling for Cpl Basham, I won't be surprised if he doesn't have a healthy grant or scholarship when this is over. (BTW - Ogre - Sorry for the long comment)
Posted by: Smoke Eater at August 18, 2005 01:02 PM (WJO7V)
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Right, Smokey.
In fact, when you're in the military, you can quite literally claim ANY state as your home state. You will then pay taxes in that state (if any). You can get a car registration, bank accounts, etc., just by claiming that state as your home state.
This is nothing more than an educational institution trying to get a load of cash out of someone, nothing more.
Posted by: Ogre at August 18, 2005 01:15 PM (/k+l4)
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August 11, 2005
Intelligent Design, Part 2
Yesterday
I responded to a question from the
Christian Views Symposium regarding intelligent design and schools. In the comments to that post, and on his own blog,
Pixy Misa said:
ID simply isn't a theory in scientific terms. Evolution is. We can perform experiments in evolution, but in the main it is observational, like astronomy. It's still science
Well, that's not entirely correct. If evolution is observational, why can't intelligent design be observed? After all, evolution CANNOT be observed happening today, only "evidence" of it can be observed. If that's the case, evidence for intelligent design can be just as easily observed.
more...
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Great job! I'd love to see a heated debate between you and Rightwingnuthouse. But I have one question, without evolution how do you explain Ogres.
Posted by: Jay at August 11, 2005 09:23 AM (2FcUc)
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So, um, where is the evidence for ID? Your attack on evolution was decent but you didn't make a single statement to support any other theroy. Couldn't we take your arguement and conclude just about anything? "Evolution doesn't add up so life must always have been here" "there isn't enough evidence for evolution so Vishnu danced us into existance"
Posted by: clark at August 11, 2005 09:55 AM (hJ+03)
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Jay, Ogres don't have to explain Ogres...

And Clark, I haven't gone into evidence for intelligent design in this post (I figured it was already too long for many people to read it). There is evidence for ID, including the idea of irreducible complexity, information theory, and a few others. I'll put all them in another post if you're interested (actually, I'll probably do it even if you're not interested, just because you asked.)
Thanks for stopping by!
Posted by: Ogre at August 11, 2005 10:01 AM (/k+l4)
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Clark has a good comment. A deity creating everything ex nihilo can be used to explain anything. If everything's perfect, that's the way the deity created them. If everything's flawed (and men have nipples for no reason), that's the way the deity created them (or is that Satan's doing?) If fossils of homo erectus exist, the deity created the Earth with fossils in it. There's a problem with a theory if two entirely different and contradictory sets of observations lead to the same conclusion. This is essentially the same thing as saying that observation's don't matter.
Posted by: Karlo at August 11, 2005 12:20 PM (HoLw7)
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I haven't listed the evidence for intelligent design yet, Karlo. I've just shown that evolution is a religion based on deeply-held religious beliefs and is simply not a valid scientific theory that can be supported with any evidence that has been observed. I'll get to the evidence for ID -- I'd like to get it up tomorrow, but it might not make it up until Saturday or Monday.
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Posted by: TF Stern at August 11, 2005 01:49 PM (dz3wA)
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Good stuff there, TF! Good stuff with excellent links and supporting. I've got some reading to do!
Posted by: Ogre at August 11, 2005 02:41 PM (L0IGK)
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