November 08, 2007
MidWest HomeSchool Convention
American Family Association is delighted to announce the 2nd annual Cincinnati Midwest Homeschool Convention!
This exciting Convention will be held March 27-29, 2008. It features an incredible lineup of speakers and a wide variety of the very best educational materials and curriculum. It is being held at the 165-acre campus of Landmark Cincinnati, 1600 Glendale-Milford Road, Cincinnati, Ohio 45215-1231.
A PARTIAL LIST OF SPEAKERS INCLUDES:
Tim Wildmon
Jessie Wise
Amanda Bennett
Jeannie Fulbright
Mike Riddle
Gary DeMar
Julie Hiramine
Mark Hamby
Andrew Pudewa
Todd Wilson
David Quine
Michael Donnelly, Esq.
Dr. R. W. Keller
Susan Kemmerer
Dr. Durrell Dobbins
Kathie Morrisey
Jessica Hulcey
Jim Weiss
A PARTIAL LIST OF VENDORS & EXHIBITORS INCLUDES:
Answers in Genesis
American Family Association
A Beka Book
Alpha Omega Publications
Sonlight
My Father's World
Classical Academic Press
Math-U-See
VideoText Interactive
Gravitas Publications
The Book Peddler
Peace Hill Press
American Vision
Excellence in Writing
Lamplighter Publishing
Generations of Virtue
Analytical Grammar
Artistic Pursuits
Cornerstone Curriculum
HSLDA
Please see http:www.midwesthomeschoolconvention.com for more information, or send an email to info@MidWestHomeschoolConvention.com
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November 07, 2007
Why Government Stinks
Wow. I just happened upon a news report for a small town school board race. Voters had to pick one of the following candidates. Using their own words, translated from newspeak, here are your choices:
Candidate #1: Incumbent. Has been board member for 8 years. Was a teacher in the education system for 25 years. Goals: raise test scores, no matter whether kids actually learn anything. Use racist hiring practices to discriminate against people based on the color of their skin. Find more cash to spend on "education." Stop people from having the freedom to build houses on their own land.
Candidate #2: Incumbent. Board member for 10 years. Be nicer to teachers. Spend more taxpayer money on teachers. Spend more "corporate" money on teachers. Will make decisions for everyone else based on what he, personally, wants for his child, no matter what anyone else actually needs.
Candidate #3: College professor since 1982. Wants to shake down private companies and force them to "donate" land to schools. Wants to shake down private companies for "donations" for schools. Also wants to base hiring decisions on the color of someone's skin, rather than on their actual qualifications.
Candidate #4: Clerical assistant at the school. Wants to reduce class sizes even though it does absolutely nothing to increase learning. Wants to increase test scores, no matter the cost or actual learning. Wants to base more decisions on which kids go to school based on their skin color. Wants to "prevent" teachers from leaving the school.
Candidate #5: Former Assistant superintendent. Wants to spend more money on teachers. Wants to spend more on technology, no matter what people need. Wants to force corporations to "give" money to education. Wants to maximize spending opportunities.
Holy crap, what choices, eh? Remember -- the government education system, as can be very clearly seen here by school board candidates -- is about SPENDING MONEY. It has NOTHING to do with educating children, learning, or anything else. They just want more money so they can spend it.
Think I could win this one?
Candidate #6 (Ogre): Thinks the government-run monopoly on education is crap. Will vote against spending any more money for anything related to education. Will not discriminate based on skin color.
Yeah, me neither.
Oh, how I yearn for freedom.
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Having a brother and sister in education, my brother being a principal for many years, I can tell you that most school boards are made up of politicians who had nothing at stake in the system they govern. It is all about money and power and not the kids. Our last superintendant was all about handing out phat building contracts to his relatives in a town that has lost a lot of population from losing 2 GM Plants and several supporting industries. How corrupt is that. We have the highest drop out rate in Indiana for sure. Everyone I talk to is dealing with corrupt, good ole boy school boards. The state of education in this nation is approaching meltdown fast!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 07, 2007 11:37 AM (TzKlC)
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It is, quite literally, beyond repair. The entire government education system should be scrapped because it has no redeeming qualities. Seriously.
Posted by: Ogre at November 07, 2007 12:22 PM (oifEm)
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I hear you. Every year it gets more and more corrupt in every way. I was happy to see my sister retire after about 20 years of teaching 4th grade. The last few years were hard on her as the kids attude changed because the parents were more and more liberal. I really feared for her a time or two because she had some dangerous little boys in her class with a "sue happy Mommy". My brother being a principal, he tells me nightmare stories as well.
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The part so many people cannot understand is that the system is totally evil -- even while individuals in the system are trying to do good. In other words, it doesn't really matter that you know this teacher or that teacher, who are really concerned with teaching and learning. The system is NOT, no matter what the people inside the system want.
And most people simply cannot comprehend that gap.
Posted by: Ogre at November 07, 2007 07:18 PM (oifEm)
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I can think of an example. How stupid is it that if a student comes at you with a knife, you are not allowed to defend yourself??? Teachers, no matter how good they are, cannot maintain control over the classroom! Why??? Because the kids don't fear them or the system in any way. Why? Because Liberalism says they should not be punished or held accountable for their actions, that liberal lawyers will get them off the hook and make lots of money. The schools are run by liberals and the liberal lawyers keep conscience, discipline and God out of the schools. The more failing kids, the more pregnant teens, the more their give-a-way programs will take them over. This is only a small example, but I think you get the idea of what I'm saying. All of this, if you love your kids, is just wrong!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 07, 2007 09:25 PM (eaqGd)
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Indeed -- and that's the way the system is DESIGNED. It has to create a need to exist. The more problems it creates, the more it can prove it needs to exist -- to solve those very problems it created.
I honestly believe that sending your children to public school is child abuse.
Posted by: Ogre at November 07, 2007 09:55 PM (2WD8n)
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I also think most "government run schools" are teacher abusers too. Any teachers who truly care are run off by the "social(ist)" rules" they have to adhere to. Teachers are required to have at least 6 years of college, a rather large investment, and yet they make very little money. Other professions with that much education "name their price". Add to that the fact that teachers are not allowed to run their classrooms and maintain proper discipline, it is a rough profession with very little job satisfaction these days.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 12:17 PM (TzKlC)
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No question about it. The system honestly does not want people who have knowledge and the ability to teach. Instead, they only want people who have followed the state-prescribed courses that tell them exactly what they're supposed to do (not teach). For example, when is the last time you heard about an actual professional teaching in a government grade school? They're NOT ALLOWED to -- because they know too much and might actually teach kids stuff the state doesn't want them to know.
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 12:39 PM (oifEm)
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The first time I hear David HOrowitz speak, it was on the Commie Channel C-SPAN about 2 years ago. It was about how colleges hire people who don't know squat about the subjects they are supposed to be teaching. Then they espouse their own, usually social(ist), agendas. I was shocked, but it was also an awakening for me. I went out and subscribed to the FrontPageMag newsletter, thus the blinders slowly began to melt away! Government schools seem to only start the process that our Colleges and Universities only started. Ogre, have you read Ann Coulter's account about McCarthy and how history was rewritten by liberals in regard to him and what was really going on in the 1950s?
I read a Coulter newsletter about it last night and I am still reeling. Everything stated was researched and backed up with evidence and we were all taught a lie when we were growing up about it. Amazing, and like you, I do not trust government education anymore.
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If you really want to get the crap scared out of you, read the true history behind the government schools in America. It's a long, long, read, but completely truthful, accurate, and damn scary:
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/underground/toc1.htm
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November 01, 2007
Purpose of Public Schools
A school board in Montana
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Allowing him to finish school online could have opened the door to allowing other students to take a high number of courses online, reducing the need and benefits of a regular school setting, the board decided.
In other words, their STATED purpose is to put students in a "regular" school setting. They honestly have no interest in education. They don't care about high school diplomas. They honestly do not care if someone learns anything. Instead, their ONLY purpose, according to the school board itself, is to put students in a "regular school setting."
If someone were interested in education and learning, they would have said something along the lines of, "Gee, we'd like this fellow to get an education, and we're willing to work with him and his family to ensure that he gets one." But no, instead they said they ONLY wanted students. They want warm bodies in seats because that's where they get more cash. Nothing else matters to the public school system in America. Seriously.
If your child is in a public school in America, keep in mind those who are "Educating" them are only interested in them as a body to get them cash. The system seriously does not care if they learn one single thing.
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But don't you think that its important for children to go to school and learn how to socialize with peers and function in a society? I met most of my friends in school and had some of my fondest childhood memories took place there. I learned how to interact with people, deal with problems, and work hard, and I feel like my experience is typical. Is this not worth our tax dollars? Despite the issues you have with greedy officials and with the quality of the education, doesn't a child benefit from being around children his own age?
Posted by: Brian at November 01, 2007 09:35 PM (fzGw8)
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Not one bit.
Why should children be limited to only associating with people who are their same chronological age -- and not with people who are their intellectual peers and/or mental peers? Why should we limit children to only one speed in classrooms, artificially teaching smarter children to slow down and NOT work?
Children very clearly DO NOT benefit from only being around children their own age. Every last person that I have met that has been homeschooled, I can tell in an instant. The children who are not forced into a public school are able to interact with people of ALL ages, not just their own -- and they've learned to work hard at their maximum capacity, instead of the state-mandated minimum capacity.
Posted by: Ogre at November 01, 2007 09:45 PM (2WD8n)
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I think you would do well to go to a high school football game. Look at the team, who have probably played together for ten or twelve years, and see the brotherhood that they share. Look at the band, and see how hard they work at what they do. The rest of the student body at the game, enjoying life forming relationships. These are experiences that are difficult to replicate with home schooling. Isn't it easier to make friends with people your own age. I have had a different experience with people who are home schooled. I find them to be sheltered and less social than most.
Posted by: Brian at November 01, 2007 10:16 PM (fzGw8)
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I see the "brotherhood" shared by forced segregation by age. I see the dumbing down and holding back of students because they don't want to "offend" any other student who's dumb.
And without a single exception, every homeschooled person I've ever met has had an easier time talking to people not of their age. In fact, there's been various studies done that show homeschooled children are MORE socially adept than those who have been forced into a public school.
The relationships from sporting and other events are incredibly easy to recreate because of various recreation departments. In the area I live there are over 90,000 kids who are homeschooled. They have their own football league. They have tons of activities -- many, many more physical activities than public schools could ever dream of.
Posted by: Ogre at November 02, 2007 01:46 AM (2WD8n)
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What would you reccommend for families where both parents need to during the day, or single parent homes. How could they provide a good education on their own?
Posted by: Brian at November 02, 2007 05:57 PM (fzGw8)
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In the home where both parents work, I would suggest they get a less material-focused lifestyle so that one can work and the other can stay home. I'm willing to bet in nearly all those cases, they are working to pay for a lot of luxuries they don't truly need. Having children should require sacrifice. Those who don't want to sacrifice their lifestyle at all for their children are being very selfish.
To those who are single parents, I suggest not becoming a single parent. I realize that sometimes it is through no fault of their own, but often it is through personal choice. And even when stuck as a single parent, I'd suggest finding their own family. Everyone has parents. If families were a lot stronger, they could stay together and raise their children.
Finally, if government completely got out of education, there were be TONS of opportunities for children to get educated. Even now there's co-ops and church organizations. If government got out of the way, I'd open a school tomorrow myself. And many, many more churches and organizations would open up educational institutions.
Posted by: Ogre at November 02, 2007 06:15 PM (oifEm)
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I'm adding this. when kids paricipate in YMCA sports, many times they are able to participate on teams in some of the private schools, like church schools, YOu have lots of different sports going on outside the realm of public school in every communuity. I do know many home schooling parents utilize the sports teams at private schools by enrolling their kids in after school care on the days they will be practicing with the team. I used to work in a church school daycare when my son was going to the school. There was a huge spirit of cooporation between the home schoolers and the Christian private schools and those kids didn't miss anything. I worked in after school care when I was a single Mom in order to get half price tuition for my son and took night classes at the local University. It wasn't easy, but it was doable. In many ways, I felt the home schooled kids adapted better socially than the private school kids. Go figure.
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It's because the home school kids learn to deal with different types of people and different aged people while public school kids ONLY learn how to act with others of their own age -- usually without adult supervision.
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October 29, 2007
School Choice -- in Ghana?
I was send
a link to a video about school choice and education issues in Ghana. I haven't had time to view the whole thing yet, but it looks at least reasonable. I did notice, early in the segment, statements about the MASSIVE problems with government-provided education -- that the government system absolutely and completely fails to educate, well, anyone. Does that sound like a system you know?
If you want a list of TV stations that plan on broadcasting the show, that's here. Or, if you like, you can just check out the previews for the segment.
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October 27, 2007
Government "Cost" for non-education?
It's amazing how far away from freedom this country has really moved. How about
a study that measures the "cost" to government for public school drop outs? Yes, this group claims that it costs the state of North Carolina $169 million a year due to students that drop out of high school -- because of medicaid costs, less tax income, and prison costs.
How stupid is this? Presumably, based on this report, if the government would just issue kids high school diplomas when they turned 18 (we could just mail them), then the government would "save" $169 million each year. Since it's such a big savings, perhaps we should just include a check for a couple million in each diploma government mails to them.
What crap.
How about we stop paying for Medicare for people? Yes, it IS possible for people to get healthcare without government buying it -- it's happened for hundreds of years. Yes, it's possible for people to earn a living without a (useless) government diploma that says they've learned, well, nothing. It's been going on for thousands of years.
How about a study on how much money the state would "save" if they stopped spending money on a failed education system that simply does not educate anyone? How about a study on how much the government would save if people learned by themselves and at home, where they will learn a great deal MORE than they could ever learn in a government institution? My guess is we'd have a MUCH more educated society AND save tens of billions of dollars a year.
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Let's get the facts straight - education is a business that keeps the otherwise unemployable, employed, i.e., bureaucrats. Not to mention various union thugs at the NEA and NCEA, and throw in the publishing companies that sell billions of dollars of books every year. Getting the big picture.
And the biggest lie of them all -- we need high school graduates is complete BS. Just look at the number of illegal aliens and the jobs they are doing and tell me they need HS educations.
Nope, what we need to do is only educate those capable of learning at a higher level. They can be ID'd by 7th or 8th grade, then take a test. If you are smart you move on, if not, off to work. Stop wasting billions on educating the stupid.
It's a service economy, stupid.
Posted by: Wuptdo at October 27, 2007 03:42 PM (axYNA)
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But we simply cannot do that -- because the massive bureaucracy will never allow it! Even if it absolutely SHOULD be done.
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October 24, 2007
NC Education: For the Diploma
Well, at least
they're being honest. A new government bureaucratic legislative panel has been formed to "increase high school graduation rates" in North Carolina. But hey, they'll be spending $7 million to "encourage" successful initiatives.
Please note what the "panel" is not concerned with: education. They honestly do not care about education or learning. The public schools are NOT interested in how much anyone learns, seriously. Once again, some within the system (the teachers) may be concerned with that, but the public school system DOES NOT CARE.
If you want to know why the education system exists today, please read this book. Again, it's long and detailed, but it's scarily honest:
In 1840, the literacy rate in America was between 93 and ONE HUNDRED percent.
By 1940 the literacy rate for whites was 96%, for blacks, 80%.
Six decades later, at the end of the twentieth century, the National Adult Literacy Survey and the National Assessment of Educational Progress say 40 percent of blacks and 17 percent of whites canÂ’t read at all. Put another way, black illiteracy doubled, white illiteracy quadrupled. Before you think of anything else in regard to these numbers, think of this: we spend three to four times as much real money on schooling as we did sixty years ago, but sixty years ago virtually everyone, black or white, could read.
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October 22, 2007
Christian = You're Fired
In most businesses, if you lie, you get fired. They expect you to tell the truth. But in government, if you tell the truth, or even have someone visit who's telling the truth (even when you counter-balance that by inviting someone who lies),
you get fired. Well, that is if the ACLU and CAIR dislike the truth.
At issue in Raleigh is Robert Escamilla, who dared to invite a Christian in school to talk about the Bible IN BIBLE HISTORY CLASS. He will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight at 9pm. He's got a web page up listing a chronology of events -- facts. And the school board, by releasing confidential personnel records, has boosted his case -- that's he's basically been fired for disagreeing with Islam.
This is blatant and open religious discrimination. The man has simply been fired because he disagrees with Islam. It's not even because he's a Christian, but because someone WHO DID NOT HEAR his guest was "offended" and called the ACLU and CAIR. And everyone knows that government only supports those two religions (atheism and Islam) -- if you disagree with those religions, you cannot work for government, plain and simple.
According to the government, Mr. Escamilla was a near-perfect teacher for EIGHTEEN years. But suddenly, in the period of one week, he went from near-perfect to being "unfit" to teach in public schools. What's the difference? He invited a Christian to speak at the school. Keep in mind -- he also invited TWO Muslims to speak to the same students as well. Yes, if you now even TALK to Christians, you're "unfit" to be in a public school.
I keep telling you that public schools are the cesspool and garbage pits of America today. KEEP YOUR CHILDREN AWAY. Unless you're atheist or Muslim, the public school system honestly hates you.
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Spot on Post, Ogre. Both my son's took this course with Mr. Escamilla at Enloe High School. Both thought he was the best teacher they at Enloe HS. One graduated and is now at UNC-W and I pulled the other one out of Enloe because of this type of crap, and the "diversity" was having a negative affects on myson, i.e., he was going "ghetto" on us, with major grade drops. Absolutely no help from Enloe HS Admin nor teachers. Now, after 7 weeks at Hargrave Military Academy, he made the honor roll first grading period.
Pretty sad when CAIR and ACLU can set School policy in our public schools.
Posted by: Wuptdo at October 22, 2007 09:17 PM (axYNA)
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But that's where we are today. CAIR and the ACLU ARE in charge. Christians are not welcome, period.
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Education Facts
From 1942 to 1944, 18 million men were tested on basic literacy to enter military service. 17,280,000 were judged to have minimum competency to read basic roads signs and directions. This is a 96 percent literacy rate (and a drop off of 2% of WWI applicants). These men were educated in the 1930s
From 1951, for the Korean war, several million more were tested and 600,000 failed basic literacy tests. The basic literacy rate had dropped to 81%. These men were educated in the 1940s, and had more years in school with more professionally trained personnel and more scientifically selected textbooks than the WWII men, yet it could not read, write, count, speak, or think as well as the earlier, less-schooled contingent.
From the mid 1960s to 1973, more men were tested for military service. The basic literacy rate was down to 73%. These men were educated in the 1950s and 1960s, an era when Public schooling was expanding rapidly and expenses on government education was increasing exponentially.
The more money we spend on education, the less literate we become. I know some who read here suggest that the "poor" won't get educated if there's not a public education system. I would suggest that NO ONE is getting educated since there is a public education system, and somehow we all managed to learn A LOT more and were MUCH more educated before the government started public education.
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Amen to that Ogre. At the University I have taught at on a part time basis, some of the junior and senior students write and read less well than the members of my graduating class. In 1964, the education was much more solid than it is now and even more so when my dad was in school in the 30's. So your point is well taken, and factually true.
Good post amigo. Now, about those Red Sox!
Posted by: GM Roper at October 22, 2007 04:43 PM (CglRh)
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I think I'll have to pull for them in the series... I gotta support the AL East.

But I'm telling you, public schools do NOT exist to educate! I have a hard time explaining that to people, but it's simply true. The more public schooling we have, the less learning and education we have.
Posted by: Ogre at October 22, 2007 04:48 PM (oifEm)
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If our taxes weren't going to a public school, we could spend (SOME of) that money on our kids' private schooling. If there must be a public school (debatable), there should be an option to opt out.
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There is an option to opt out now -- but you have to keep paying into the horrible system -- because if you could opt out and take your money with you, the public system would fail VERY quickly -- which would be a good thing!
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October 18, 2007
Public Schools = Horrible Evil
Those who read here regularly (thank you!) know my position on public schools (aka government monopoly schools). They stink. I mean, they really, really stink. They're garbage. I know, YOUR schools is okay, the rest are bad. No, I'm sorry, but YOUR public school is crap, too. If you want a very long read about the actual history of schools, check
this one out. It's LONG, but it's accurate.
I know some of you are school teachers, or know school teachers, and you're quite sure that they are doing all they can. Well, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. "Our problem in understanding forced schooling stems from an inconvenient fact: that the wrong it does from a human perspective is right from a systems perspective." In other words, schools are about the SYSTEM, not people -- and therefore it destroys people.
Here's a couple recent news stories that help illustrate how bad public schools have gotten (they're NOT the school you went to years ago):
In California, two-parent families are banned. Seriously. Any person who is sending their child to ANY public school in California is doing a great disservice to that child. And yes, it's EVERY school there now. It's not about "protecting" gays, it's about openly discriminating against heterosexuals and two-parent families. Your children WILL be taught that they might be a different sex, despite what they know. Your children there will share bathrooms and locker rooms, regardless of their gender. And using the words "Mom" and "Dad" is basis for a lawsuit. California is lost.
Keep in mind: it's about the SYSTEM, not people.
And since it's about keeping kids in the system (so the system gets cash from other government agencies), if you DARE to take your child out once they're in the system, your children may be taken from you! I expect to see much more of this in California if people start running from the discriminatory system. I strongly suggest that anyone with children have a "bug out bag" with cash and clothes to flee, should social services EVER show up at your door. These are no longer conspiracy theories, they're happening right now.
In addition, another trend in public schools is the forced medication of your children, without parental permission or knowledge. After all, 11-year olds needs to have sex, right? That's what some schools are claiming.
Oh, and are you ready for the views of those who voted to encourage your 11-year old to have sex?
If my daughter were not able to talk with me about something, if she couldn't reach me for whatever reason, to keep her safe and healthy, I would want to make sure she had access to those resources from trusted adults.
Richard Verrier
Let me interpret what that actually means:
"If I suck so bad as a parent that my child won't talk to me about something as important as sex, I think she should talk to some strange adult who will encourage her to have sex. I'm glad that these strangers, who are government employees, and therefore completely trustworthy, but who might be pedophiles, will encourage my daughter to have sex often, perhaps even with them."
And much, much worse is what's also implied by this statement:
"In addition, not only do I trust complete stranger adults encouraging MY child to have promiscuous sex at age 11, I DEMAND that every other adult in the state of Maine equally trust random, unknown adults to encourage every one of their children to have open sex at age 11, too." Mr. Verrier, you are an evil, horrible person. I don't want ANY 11-year olds having sex, and you are horrible to demand that I allow ALL 11-year old girls to have rampant sex.
At the same time, religion will NOT BE permitted in these horrible institutions called "public schools." You see, if you're a government employee, you're simply not permitted to have ANY religion other than the ACLU and government-approved religion of atheism.
When you subject your child to a government school, you ARE giving up nearly ALL rights to that child. That's not exaggeration. Various courts have ruled that the school is allowed to act as a parent -- and ANY decision the school makes cannot be overridden by any parent.
Public schools are beyond repair. They are beyond hope. I implore you, if you care about your child, you will not let them into such evil places. Again, it's about the SYSTEM, not about your child, education, or ANYTHING else.
Update: The government has "backed down" in attacking the homeschooling parents -- but left them with VERY ominous warnings: "We will be watching you." Anita Nicoli, I suggest you pack up and RUN from that state RIGHT NOW. Social services will not surrender so easily. I suggest you head to New Hampshire as quickly as you can (and so should anyone else looking for freedom).
Van Helsing puts a face on this nightmare.
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It would one thing if the schools taught Reading, writing and arithmetic...but they don't anymore.
Damn where are we heading??
Posted by: Raven at October 18, 2007 01:34 PM (yjgAc)
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I'm telling you, they are beyond hope. The "System" simply cannot be salvaged.
Posted by: Ogre at October 18, 2007 01:42 PM (oifEm)
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I just linked to this. I am sick now.
Posted by: Raven at October 18, 2007 01:44 PM (yjgAc)
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I've been seething over this for days now. I just wish I could get people to see beyond, "Well, MY school is okay." It's not. Seriously.
Posted by: Ogre at October 18, 2007 01:48 PM (oifEm)
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And thank you for the link!
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You are welcome.
My friend (Kim) has just started home schooling her two younger sons...she pulled them from the public schools after she realized how bad the sex education classes are AND that she, as the parent, had no say in the curriculum; once she saw that she requested her boys not attend; she was told she had no choice on the matter. Her sons would have to attend in order to get the "credits" required to move on. Mind you, these are elementary and middle school aged boys.
The crap she went through to get them out of school was something else as well. But it's done..and she is teaching them what she feels is important and vital. Three weeks into it and her sons are already improving in all areas.
Posted by: Raven at October 18, 2007 02:06 PM (yjgAc)
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Homeschooling IS the best option -- even if it's "difficult" or someone can't afford it. It simply is -- and yes, the schools will very much oppose that because they lose cash when students leave.
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Ogre, check out this:
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2007/10/school_to_offer.html
And follow the link under the picture of the girl.
We see the results of our society where girls are sexualized- and somehow they are blamed.
Sorry for the long link...
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..and wait til you read this:
http://www.darleenclick.com/weblog/archives/2007/10/school_board_su.html
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I absolutely agree with your post. Unfortunately, I'm the choir you're preaching too...lol...but I wanted to let you know I agree.
And, Anita SHOULD run from that state right now.
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Yes, Raven, there are even more people who honestly WANT to force all children to have sex at age 11, no matter what parents want. It's ALL about control -- total and absolute control.
Thanks for stopping by and dropping me a line, Holly!
Posted by: Ogre at October 19, 2007 11:07 AM (oifEm)
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Some of the things schools do are absolutely stupid. I completely agree.
But public schools were founded for a reason. There are some really shoddy parents out there. You mightn't think so, but I think if you remember your own days in school, you'll remember kids who had parents who didn't give a hoot. We can't write those kids off. As a society, we need to educate them. And protect them to our best ability.
If an 11 year old is having sex, and you do abstinence counseling and tell them it's a bad idea and they still have sex, well, tell me what's wrong with providing contraceptives. That school district (Portland Maine) had 17 known middle school pregnancies last year. If even 1 of those poor kids had been prevented, it would be worth the program.
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No. Public schools were NOT founded to educate the poor. Anyone who wants to know exactly why public schools were founded, please follow the very first link in the post. It had NOTHING to do with educating poor people -- or even actually education (aka learning).
Do you think poor kids didn't learn before public schools? They learned a LOT more and they learned a LOT better. EVERYONE was MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more educated before public schools. Not a little more educated, TREMENDOUSLY more educated. Public schools are DESTROYING learning!
What's wrong? It's the school deciding THEY want to give permission and openly ENCOURAGE someone's child to have sex. That's really, really, wrong and evil. NO ONE should be telling 11-year old girls that sex is okay. Giving them prescription medications that remove consequences from sex is telling them it's okay.
Posted by: Ogre at October 19, 2007 01:54 PM (oifEm)
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I actually heard someone who was at the meeting in Maine. They are NOT encouraging sex. They are using the birth control as a last ditch effort to help prevent another generation of lost kids.
and I said nothing about educating the poor. Unless you mean poor in spirit. I said kids who don't have parents who can teach them or parents who care. Like it or not, that is a significant portion of people.
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Posted by: birdwoman at October 19, 2007 01:59 PM (vR7Sl)
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Just because they claim it's not encouraging sex, doesn't make it so. When you tell an ELEVEN YEAR OLD girl that you're giving her something to make her not pregnant, that IS not only approval, but encouragement to continue that action.
It's sort of like if you punch me in the face, and I give you $50. At the same time, I tell you, please don't do that, because I don't approve. But each time you punch me in the face, I'm going to give you $50. Now, do I "approve" of you punching me in the face? Gee, I said that I didn't approve...
You can use the word "poor" whichever way you like, but the results are the same. ALL people were much, much more educated before public schools came around. That's factual information, not an opinion. There's reams of data around to prove that.
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October 03, 2007
Hugs = Go To Jail
Well, you know how bad hugs are, right? You know how evil they are and how many people are injured and killed with hugs? Finally a school in Oak Park, IL has had the guts to
ban those evil things. That's right, according to the government in Oak Park, if you're in a government school building and hug someone, you're in BIG trouble.
I'm so happy they've banned these things. Now if only more governments would see this progressive attitude and ban more of them. After all, I'm so offended when I see someone hugging someone else. I'm often late because I have to walk all the way around those people. And they waste so much time. See, students were late for classes because they were hugging and now that it's been banned, no one will be late any more. Isn't that wonderful? If only we had more government banning more things, utopia truly would exist here on earth.
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September 10, 2007
School and Summer

So why do you parents keep sending them back to this penal institution known as "public school?"
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August 30, 2007
The History of American Education
Have you ever read "
The Underground History of American Education?" If you want to know how and why the "public" education system in America works, you might want to. It's not a couple minutes' read, but it is quite enlightening. It starts out:
Our problem in understanding forced schooling stems from an inconvenient fact: that the wrong it does from a human perspective is right from a systems perspective.
I want to open up concealed aspects of modern schooling such as the deterioration it forces in the morality of parenting. You have no say at all in choosing your teachers. You know nothing about their backgrounds or families. And the state knows little more than you do. This is as radical a piece of social engineering as the human imagination can conceive. What does it mean?
What exactly is public about public schools? ThatÂ’s a question to take seriously. If schools were public as libraries, parks, and swimming pools are public, as highways and sidewalks are public, then the public would be satisfied with them most of the time. Instead, a situation of constant dissatisfaction has spanned many decades. Only in OrwellÂ’s Newspeak, as perfected by legendary spin doctors of the twentieth century such as Ed Bernays or Ivy Lee or great advertising combines, is there anything public about public schools.
Go read the entire thing if you truly want to understand why I, and many others, feel there is absolutely nothing redeeming about the entire government-run school system. But be prepared to be shocked and amazed. If information is power, this reading is an atom bomb.
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August 23, 2007
Government Education
Government education is horrible. I haven't written much about the government education system recently because I simply don't have words to describe it. If you think the current "public" education system is even remotely interested in educating your children, you're deeply confused. The government education system exists to support itself, and has absolutely NO other purpose.
Have you seen the "evil" sketch that got a student suspended in Arizona? The silly thing doesn't even look like a gun. But worse, the government bureaucrats (teachers and administrators) are actually defending their actions. At this point, I'm now beyond saying that it's just the bureaucrats -- the teachers are just as bad these days.
Why do I say that? Because in order for this event to happen, a teacher had to see the drawing. The teacher had to look at the picture and either think, "Oh, I'm scared;" or "That's against the rules." The TEACHER then had to report the student. Then the moron that is the principal then had to agree, "Oh, this is dangerous." Then the idiots that are the district administrators had to look at this and say, "This is absolutely a threat."
Every last person in that chain of events is a stupid moron. I don't say that lightly. You people who look at a poorly drawn imaginary "gun" (it's even a LASER gun that doesn't exist!) and are threatened should be locked up in an insane asylum. You're fools. You're the worst type of government employee. And with this many people involved that are total idiots shows that the entire system is utterly and completely infected by morons.
No, there's NO way to compare this to Columbine, as the idiot administrators actually did! There was NO THREAT. It was an imaginary drawing of an imaginary object. There was no blood. There was no one dying. There was nothing even remotely threatening. This would be exactly the same as a person drawing a monster and people being "threatened" by that.
The government education system, from the administrators on down to the teachers, are completely and totally hopeless. They are useless. They serve NO purpose other than to consume your tax dollars, literally. They do not educate. They do not teach. They have no value. The government education system is completely and totally beyond repair and has nothing worth saving.
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Absolutely correct! Our schools are being run by a bunch of idiots who are so scared of the "politically correct" and equally as scared of lawsuits, that it gives them nightmares.
But, in a way, I can't say I blame them for their actions because the threat of losing their jobs is very real and we all know that we will do stupid things to continue to make a living.
The real enemy is out there and it may all come down to a retarded justice system that allows frivolous lawsuits.
Whym
Posted by: Whymrhymer at August 23, 2007 04:43 PM (TMlCy)
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It would be nice to see people with guts in these positions -- but I know that's not going to happen. I don't believe it's because they're scared, I think it's because they're idiots. Anyone who can honestly look at that picture and claim it's dangerous is a total moron. They need mental help. It's not lawsuits, or even PC -- it's just total stupidity, no way around it.
And I DO blame them. I'm SO, SO tired of hearing the "I'm just doing my job." When your job is wrong, stop doing it, period. That's what I mean about people with guts. If someone told me as part of my job I had to punch people in the face if they had brown shoes, I'd quit.
But again, I don't think these people actually thought about that -- they're not that smart.
Posted by: Ogre at August 23, 2007 05:08 PM (oifEm)
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Zero tolerance does not work. But at this point, it's the mode du jour. Teachers must follow the rules or we lose our jobs. And since it's a monopoly, we're careful not to lose our jobs.
Your shout of "just say no" doesn't put food on my table. And for every stupid example like this one, there are hundreds of examples where a teacher uses sense. Please don't brush us all with the stupid paint.
Thanks!
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If we had common sense, the teachers WOULD say no -- and lose their jobs. Then there would be no one to teach the children. Ah, but that's just my utopia...
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July 16, 2007
Education Needs Cash
What a shocker. The Charlotte Observer
strongly supports throwing enormous piles of federal cash (taken from working taxpayers) at the government education system (which has nothing to do with educating people). This time it's called the "Graduation Promise Act" -- and costs $2.5 billion. Like everything else associated with government education, it has absolutely no value and will help no one except bureaucrats.
This one claims to help "reduce dramatically the number of high school dropouts." If they really want to increase the graduation rate, just start printing diplomas for anyone who reaches the age of 18. Seriously. Then they can claim much higher graduation rates and everyone will be happy -- and it would cost a LOT less.
These socialists and bureaucrats who literally want nothing but more money taken from those who work are playing on your emotions. After all, don't you WANT to help the poor and underprivileged? If you don't support this, you're heartless! Of course, this is in direct opposition to the fact that some people simply are not capable of learning enough to be considered educated. But don't worry, government can solve that problem, too -- with just a little more money.
What are they crying about and trying to get you to support massive new taxation?
More class time, immediate intervention and targeted help for each student who fails or falls behind, intensive focus on language and math, plus more challenging and inviting learning environments make a difference for struggling students.
And the most ironic thing about this?
Most of these strategies are already a part of N.C. Gov. Mike Easley's New Schools Project that aims to help transform conventional high schools into ones that are relevant and effective.
In other words, North Carolina
is already doing this -- but we still need BILLIONS more in taxes to pay for it -- and the results from doing this now in North Carolina? A 68% graduation rate.
But gee, if we'd just spend a few billion more, all the problems would be solved.
Actually, if the entire government system of schools and "education" -- from age 3 to graduate schools -- would shut down overnight, EVERYONE would be SUBSTANTIALLY better off. Well, everyone except the government bureaucrat employees who live off other people's hard work.
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sure take more and more and more money!..great stuff Ogre!..keep hollerin my friend!
Posted by: Angel at July 16, 2007 01:22 PM (teAKI)
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All government education needs to "succeed" is MORE. I just wish people would realize that their definition of "success" is more money, not educated people.
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May 15, 2007
Brainwashed Fools
The government-run socialist school system continues to brainwash unsuspecting youth. Note
this essay by Danielle England and Kori Nunes. They support complete removal of the Second Amendment. Why? Because they don't trust me. I guess since their god, the US government, claims
I'm a terrorist, they believe their god and don't trust me. But they really think the world will be safer without guns. Guess they haven't heard
about Japan. Good thing they don't have guns and are only beheading and dismembering people.
But this is a result of the government school system. The government run system is telling your children that all guns are bad all the time. They are being told that you cannot trust anyone with a gun because you will kill people. The government run system is pointing out and teaching this vulnerable kids that anyone with a gun, other than government agents, is a bad person. And the kids believe them.
Arm yourselves now, because when these kids get to voting age, they're going to do all they can to disarm you so that only the government will be armed. Of course, the kids are also not taught that every single time that has happened in all of human history, government then starts killing anyone they don't like.
And once again, government schools illustrate their utter worthlessness to a free country.
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May 14, 2007
Learning Fear
Isn't
this nice? Trust your government and your government schools. Why?
It was a 5-minute learning experience.
We got together and discussed what we would have done in a real situation.
We can learn from this.
It will have a positive result of growth for all of us.
They're great teachers.
If (the assistant principal) loses his job, I will break into tears. He's the best assistant principal I've ever had.
Isn't that wonderful? Isn't it great how the teachers are teaching our children? Come on, everyone sing Kumbaya! Awwww....
Oh, but did you want to know what they were doing? Yes, the teachers and administrators were terrorizing the students. 69 sixth-graders were victims of terrorism. They trusted their teachers and the teachers lied to them in order to "teach" the students how to be scared witless.
The children were in that room in the dark, begging for their lives, because they thought there was someone with a gun after them.
But hey, that's okay, because government schools exist to "educate" students, right? Aren't you glad that your tax money is being used to teach children how to cry and hide under desks while they're being terrorized? Well, if the Democrats (and the NEA) have their way, there's going to be a lot more of that in the US, so perhaps it is a valuable skill to learn.
You just go ahead, keep supporting those government schools. Keep telling yourself, "Gee, that might happen over there, but it won't happen in MY government school. MY school is better than that." Sorry. If it's a government run school (aka "public" school), it's no better than the steaming pile left by that brown cow in the field. Government schools have zero interest in education.
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April 12, 2007
ACLU sues government. Again.
The ACLU gets most of it's operating funds from suing government -- claiming punitive damages. Punitive damages should be illegal when suing government -- school boards and other boards DO NOT CARE. It's not their money, so you are NOT punishing them. On to this week's Stop the ACLU blogburst:
April 11, 2007 10:08 PM
NewsChannel5.com
A federal judge has granted permission to a group of parents to try to stop a lawsuit filed by the ACLU.
The suit claims Wilson County schools violated constitutional separation of church and state.
It alleges Lakeview Elementary school in Mt. Juliet and the Wilson County school board endorsed and promoted religious activities on campus that led to constitutional violations.
Very short article, lacking much information, but here is an Oct.2006 piece from Alain's Newsletter that gives a bit more detail.
Old Hickory, TN –
U.S. Senate candidate Bob Corker today said the Tennessee chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is woefully wrong to have filed what he called a "frivolous liberal lawsuit" against the Wilson County School District alleging a morning prayer endorsed by Lakeview Elementary School officials is a constitutional violation of church-state separation.
"When the President declared September 14, 2001 — just two days after the attacks of 9-11 — a National Day of Prayer, no one sued him for crossing some arbitrary line between church and state," said Corker. "We just bowed our heads and prayed. When a school in Wilson County or anywhere in our country allows children to do the same on the National Day of Prayer, or at a gathering at the flagpole, the courts ought to stay out of the way."
Corker said he supports the efforts of Mt. Juliet Commissioner Glen Linthicum, who said it was time for the community to take a stand against the ACLU lawsuit recently filed against the Wilson County School District. Linthicum co-sponsored a resolution unanimously approved last Monday night by the Mt. Juliet City Commission that encourages the elementary school and the Wilson School District to fight for their rights to religious expression.
"Like many parents across our state, I pray for my family everyday," Corker stated. "We should never force anyone to believe a certain faith or pray a certain way," Corker continued, "but if a school decides to set aside some time to allow children who wish to pray to do so, we ought to support that school and community. That is precisely what it means to protect our freedom of religious expression — and I will fight to do just that in the U.S. Senate if elected."
It appears that the ACLU has set it's sights on this school district...The ACLU Targets Christians
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Sick, isn't it? I wish we expel every anti-American out of the country but we can't because it's "free speech"... it's only free when they utter their nonsense. It's no longer free when anybody opposes them.
Their hate will be their undoing one of these days.
Posted by: Steph at April 12, 2007 02:53 PM (AC9Dc)
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I don't mind their speech -- instead what I mind is them taking my money in lawsuits that should be thrown out of courts.
Posted by: Ogre at April 12, 2007 03:10 PM (oifEm)
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OK my temper is too short today to even read this. Why can't people understand that government = US? I really really don't get it.
(paid taxes last night, including a hefty fee for not handing my money over to them in a timely fashion. Grrrrr.)
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They don't get it because they don't WANT to. Remember, there is a large portion of slimy scum suckers who pay ZERO taxes - including, I bet, most of those who work for the ACLU. They WANT your money because they honestly think you're too dumb to spend it correctly yourself.
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April 11, 2007
Watching the Campus
Let's face it -- you cannot be everywhere. You can't watch all the news and keep track of terrorists everywhere. So how about someone that will do this for you:
reviews and critiques Middle East studies in North America with an aim to improving them. The project mainly addresses five problems: analytical failures, the mixing of politics with scholarship, intolerance of alternative views, apologetics, and the abuse of power over students. Campus Watch fully respects the freedom of speech of those it debates while insisting on its own freedom to comment on their words and deeds
That's the mission statement of
Campus Watch. If you're interested in keeping track of such things, I suggest you head over there and read what they're reporting.
(H/T to GM Roper).
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April 10, 2007
NC Democrats Help the Rich
So, do you think that an annual salary of over $70,000 qualifies someone as in the "rich" category? The US Bureau of Labor Statistics lists the US average salary as just $36,000. And Democrats continue to claim, over and over again, that they're for the "working man" and for "the poor." Well, the NC House (majority Democrats) just voted to give a 12% raise to certain state employees earning over $70,000.
House Bill 1299 just passed the House and it gives that raise. Oh, but it's okay because it's "for the children." This 12% raise is for teachers who make over $70,000. What? You didn' t know there were such things? You thought that all teachers made $12,000 a year, didn't you?
And if you read the formerly mainstream media, I'm sure you will have trouble understanding that on average North Carolina teachers make $2,700 more each year than their peers across the country. You might also not know that teacher pay in North Carolina has increased almost TWENTY percent in the past five years. So, have you gotten a 20% raise in the past five years -- for doing NO additional work? I know I haven't.
Once again -- that's North Carolina Democrats giving a massive 12% raise to state employees who already make in excess of $70,000. That's how they "help the poor."
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ogre, i did a little checking and it seems that "m" teachers are the ones that are affected... those appear to be teachers that have at least a masters degree... and to go over $70k a yeah they would also need to have more than 29 years of service AND NBPTS Certification... so i cannot imagine that there are more than a couple hundred of these teachers state wide... my understanding is that there are something like 20,000 unfilled teaching positions in this state, so this seems like an incentive program designed to keep long term teachers from retiring...
sorry, my father is a 32 year teacher in FL, and i can vouch for the fact that teachers are constantly shit on... frankly they deserve whatever they can get... i have an idea though... why not stop building million dollar football stadiums in high schools and start paying teachers instead
Posted by: chris at April 11, 2007 04:31 AM (qz/By)
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All that you state is true. And so is everything I posted. This raise IS for those who are making a LOT of money already, plain and simple.
In a free market, there's only two ways to get paid a lot of money -- do something no one wants to do, or do something no one else can do. Teaching is both easy and many people want to do it -- there is no economic reason to pay them a lot of money.
Telling entry-level people that if they stay for 30 years that they'll get a raise is in no way a recruitment tool -- this move is a simple way for Democrats to continue to buy the votes of teachers and nothing more.
Most of the waste in education is on the bureaucrats. Check the salaries of principals and superintendents.
So sure, it might be nice and friendly to say that we should pay teachers more -- but that would be anti-freedom and anti-capitalist to do so.
Posted by: Ogre at April 11, 2007 11:19 AM (oifEm)
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there are so many other problems with the public indoctrination system (aka public schools) that teacher salaries are probably the least of the problem... youve got education requirements made by political decisions, youve got schools that have failing grades every year that are allowed to stay open and parents that are FORCED to send their kids ther (or if they dont they still pay taxes there) and youve got schools that arent allowed to tell a kid what they can and cannot say, what they can and cannot wear, and what they can and cannot believe... its a rife breeding ground for left wing recruits and again... the teachers salaries are the least of the problem
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Agreed. I honestly think that the entire government-run education system should be shut down tomorrow -- and I also believe that if it were there would be tremendously more educated people, tons more freedom, and a HUGE boost to the economy and jobs.
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March 21, 2007
Carnival of Homeschooling
Government is incapable of education. The current education system in America is honestly not interested in educating anyone. Instead, the current system is 100% about cash -- getting it and spending it. Anyone who claims different is either uninformed or lying. I seriously believe that the entire government education system should be shut down -- starting with the federal department of education.
However, that would require people to work. That would require people to actually DO things. It would require people to raise their children, instead of handing that task over to the nanny state. So I guess that's not going to happen -- despite the absolutely HUGE economic impact that would happen if all government education shut down today. Instead, for now, I'll have to settle with the next best thing: homeschooling. It works, and it is good. If you want your child to be educated with your values (and you're not a liberal), you have almost no other choice. Sure, private schools are an option, but they can be expensive.
So, in further support of homeschooling, I present this week's Carnival of Homeschooling. Well, actually I'm not presenting it, Principled Discovery is -- I'm just giving you the link so you can go check it out. So what are you waiting for?
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