When I make comments, both here and on other blogs, about Christians being persecuted in America today, some of those on the left laugh. They claim that it simply isn't possible and that it isn't happening. Well, they are wrong, and here's a huge example of it.

I first read this story on Cross Blogging a week or so ago, but I haven't had time to post about it. I cannot let it sit any longer.

Can you imagine 7- and 8-year old children attending a government-run school in America today and participating in coloring and learning for December? The students might learn about Jesus, King of the Jews, who was God come to earth.

They might put on a play where they re-enact the manger scene with Joseph, Mary, angels and shepherds. They might learn about the 10 commandments and even be expected to memorize them.

The students might be given Bible verses and have different verses that they would be expected to memorize each week. They might even say prayers ending with, "In Jesus name we pray, Amen."

They might even learn about the real meaning of Easter, complete with the entire resurrection story about Jesus and all His miracles. They might read stories and re-enact the story of the loaves and the fishes. Now, you can imagine what would happen if any school or school teacher in America tried that? Can you even picture the 24-hour news coverage? There would be so much press there, there could be press covering the press coverage!

There would be outrage. There would be accusations. There would be demands for firing of everyone from the school teacher to the school board. The school would have to be shut down. There would be "grief counselors" for the "affected" students. It would be total chaos.

But, if you change all those references from God and Jesus to Allah and Muhammed, it's all perfectly OK...at least according to the anti-Americans on the 9th circuit court.

Students in a government school were being forced to take muslim names, act like muslims, and learn muslim theology, including the five pillars of salt islam, and even memorizing and saying islamic prayers as a part of class assignments -- and all that is perfectly okay, according to the court.

They made banners that contained islamic prayers. They were required to memorize parts of the Queran. Again, all approved by the school and the court. And remember, this is the same court that ruled that parents have absolutely NO say in what their children are taught in government schools.

Now, maybe those of you on the left still don't see that as religious persecution, but then again, maybe you can't see that the sun rises in the east, either.

And yes, Christians are much more persecuted in other areas of the globe -- most notably where islam thrives -- but the war against Christianity HAS come to America, whether you want to admit it or not.

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Posted by: Ogre at 03:07 PM | Comments (8) | Add Comment
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1 Are you talking about Dearborn, Michigan? Because this is happening in there schools. Dearborn is the largest Muslim concentration outside of the Middle East and they bow down to the Muslims in that school district going as far as hiring Arabic speaking teachers to teach the students so they don't have to learn to speak english.

Posted by: Machelle at December 05, 2005 04:39 PM (ZAyoW)

2 The specific incident I mentioned was happening in California schools -- so it's spreading across the country.

Posted by: Ogre at December 05, 2005 04:41 PM (/k+l4)

3 I actually used a comparison showing the ACLU's fighting usage of the Christian bible in teaching American Lit (which just is not possible to teach without the bible because there are so many references one just will not "get" without it) while supporting what was going on in Cali to show proof anti-Christianity and not one lefty on that board saw a thing wrong with this. Said it was ok because it was for "educational purposes" while using the Christian bible for any purpose is "religious" in nature. Even went so far as to say that "personal prayer" should be banned as well because it might make someone "feel" uncomfortable. They wouldn't weigh in on banning personal prayer of Islamists as well as Christians in America's public schools but changed the subject. There is so much hatred toward Christians they can't see straight or think clearly. Or just don't care. Ew, I rambled. Sorry.

Posted by: uber at December 05, 2005 07:43 PM (8LdKN)

4 Well, they're consistent.

Posted by: Ogre at December 05, 2005 08:56 PM (/k+l4)

5 You are obviously deeply confused about the meaning of the word and the concept of "persecuted". This isn't it. This is learning about another culture through roll playing. I agree that it crosses the line of first-fourteenth amendment establishment clause law, although nothing will be done about it. On the contrary, such things will be encouraged because, well, learning about the culture and religion of moderate Islam is important, I guess. You really need to do some reading about persecution. Check out flaying alive, feeding to lions, imolation, crucifixion either right side up or up side down, and other truly barbaric practices. What you cite as persecution is absolutely a joke and makes a mockery of language. There are Christians that are being persecuted in the world today, though not in America that I'm aware of.

Posted by: Craig R. Harmon at December 05, 2005 11:43 PM (2VzcU)

6 As I said, "And yes, Christians are much more persecuted in other areas of the globe -- most notably where islam thrives -- but the war against Christianity HAS come to America, whether you want to admit it or not."

Posted by: Ogre at December 06, 2005 01:41 AM (uSCkp)

7 Ya know what's funny? There is supposedly an 85% majority of Americans that call themselves Christian, yet people think that the other 15% are going to destroy Christianity. Let's take a look at something that all these "War on Christianity" pundits don't want to address: Christianity used to be the religion that was taught in schools. Any student of any other religion had to sit there and be spoon-fed massive doses of Christianity. No one raised their voice for a very long time. Now there are a very few instances of other religions being taught in schools and the pundits get their panties in a bunch and start screaming "HOLY WAR". Get over it and focus on the real problems in America... -13 million American children living in poverty (something that the overwhelming 85% majority of Christians in America somehow have not addressed with any real concern) -A war based on lies and no concern for the aftermath. -The treasonous outing of a CIA agent during a time of war and heightened terrorist activity. -Countless people being slaughtered in Africa. There's a lot of stuff going on that is MUCH more important than whether someone is allowed to display their religion in public. Besides, Jesus Christ said in Matthew 6:5-6 (NLT) 5 "And now about prayer. When you pray, don't be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can see them. I assure you, that is all the reward they will ever get. 6 But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father secretly. Then your Father, who knows all secrets, will reward you." Kinda debunks the whole argument about Christians praying in public, eh? Basically, when a Christian prays in public, they are disobeying a commandment of Christ, and therefore become something less than a Christian. But I suppose if Christians want to fight a political battle than obeying Christ, then that is their right in America. Just a shame that they would choose to do so. FYI, I'm a Christian myself. Just not one that likes to label every perceived slight as a war.

Posted by: Dan at December 13, 2005 09:39 PM (MN0+Z)

8 You are certainly free to deny what's going on if you want to, Dan. Thanks for stopping by!

Posted by: Ogre at December 13, 2005 09:48 PM (uSCkp)

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