that there is no such thing as parental rights. In other words, children are wholly and completely owned by the state, not the parents.
Now while the EU Convention claims that parents have religious freedom with such statements as "the State shall respect the right of parents to ensure such education and teaching in conformity with their own religious and philosophical convictions," the Court decided to "interpret" that to mean that the state gets to decide what religious activities shall be permitted by the parents.
At issue, specifically here, was homeschooling in Germany. In Germany, it's illegal. Your children will be taken away from you and you will be fined if you attempt to teach your own children. In Germany, that is the sole province of the state and the state will use it's monopoly on force to destroy any who attempt to challenge their rule in this area. The EU Court just agreed with Germany.
So while every day we lose freedoms here in the United States, and we are really no longer a truly free society, things are worse elsewhere in the world. The EU Court said that "Parents may not refuse the right to education of a child on the basis of their convictions." In other words, you have ZERO religous freedom in Germany.
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Thank God for America! Our own left would love to ban homeschooling too, but have so far been unsuccessful! In California they tried to pass a law saying that only an accredited teacher could home school...it failed!
BTW...He's baaaaack! I don't believe al-antar has read my blog except for responses to his comments, or he'd be having a cow about my most recent post. So far no comments there.
Posted by: DagneyT at September 28, 2006 08:30 PM (pFR9u)
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Homeschooling is one of the very few places where we're not losing freedoms in America -- and that is truly a good thing.
Posted by: Ogre at September 28, 2006 09:19 PM (QmGzr)
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Spoke too soon! At least he did not have a cow, and even thanked me!
Posted by: DagneyT at September 28, 2006 10:02 PM (pFR9u)
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Wow. I didn't know this about Germany...but it makes sense for that part of the world where socialism is the THING. We wouldn't want our kids to grow up thinking it's good to EARN and WORK for the things we value.
Posted by: Raven at September 28, 2006 10:18 PM (jTjxk)
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They openly admit in this decision that people should NOT have differing views of society. They clearly state that the State should make everyone think the same, and that's just damn scary.
Posted by: Ogre at September 28, 2006 10:56 PM (QmGzr)
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I couldn't quite figure out how the right of the parent to educate their child according to their convictions necessitated regulation by the state and therefore meant basically the exact opposite of what that would appear to mean.
If you are interested, last night I finally found the text of the actual decision and talk about it (and link to it)here:
http://gottsegnet.blogspot.com/2006/09/new-petand-its-demise.html
Posted by: Dana at September 29, 2006 03:24 PM (rH6Vz)
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ok, that's what I get for multi-tasking. That's about my son and THIS is about the court decision:
http://gottsegnet.blogspot.com/2006/09/european-court-of-human-rights-rules.html
Posted by: Dana at September 29, 2006 03:26 PM (rH6Vz)
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You really should let people like me edit their comments so I don't fill up your comment box with my own stupidity.
http://gottsegnet.blogspot.com/2006/09/parents-right-to-educate-by-its-nature.html
Posted by: Dana at September 29, 2006 03:30 PM (rH6Vz)
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Hehe. Don't worry about it.

I suspect (although I'll go now and read you comments about it) that they found that the parents don't really HAVE that right.
Posted by: Ogre at September 29, 2006 03:31 PM (oifEm)
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Yeah, something like that. They have an interesting view of what a right is. I'm all for "state's rights" but that means something drastically different here than this decision hands down : )
Anyway, thanks for your patience with my links. I am a product of the public schools, after all, where guess and check is the primary problem solving skill taught.
Posted by: Dana at September 29, 2006 05:12 PM (JEbUC)
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In a free country, individual rights trump states' rights.
And you learned actual skills in public school? You must have gone to one of them thar "good" schools. We don't have time for teaching skills in schools in NC.
Posted by: Ogre at September 29, 2006 09:16 PM (QmGzr)
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