September 27, 2005

ID in Schools

A self-proclaimed "expert" from Duke University, with all the usual "holier than thou" attitudes and ivory tower proclamations has declared, with an expected immediate deference to his much-more-knowledgeable-than-you ruling, that mentioning that evolution might not actually be 100% correct is unconstitutional.

This is just another liberal who has decided that he knows better than you and should be obeyed at all times. He claims that mentioning anything other than his one, true religion, materialism, in government-run schools is a violation of his right to free speech because his religion (naturalism) is correct and all other religions should not be allowed in any government institution.

In a related, but underreported lawsuit, an unnamed individual has sued the state of North Carolina, demanding that the laws against murder be repealed because they are very clearly an unconstitutional infringement on religion and an establishment of religion.

"The Bible clearly states that 'Thou shall not murder,'" says the lawsuit, filed today in Loon County, "so the state simply cannot have that law. It is an obvious attempt by Christians to enforce their own moral and religious rules on the rest of society."

The lawsuit continues, "In addition, this prohibition on to what many deem to be a sacred religious right, murdering infidels, clearly prohibits law abiding citizens from exercising their own religion. If one person's religion deems that murder is required by their god, who is the state to tell them their religion is wrong?"

The Supreme Court is expected to rule on both lawsuits simultaneously, as the ruling in one lawsuit will most certainly be expected to be applied to both.

Posted by: Ogre at 11:04 AM | Comments (7) | Add Comment
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1 Frankly, I don't think religion has any place in schools, especially Science class. If my child is going to learn about any religion in school, I had better be signing a form for him to attend. Intelligent Design has no place in the classroom IMO. Save it for sunday school, unless maybe we can teach Evolution in Sunday school as well. Anyhow, the Flying Spaghetti Monster created everything, so there

Posted by: Glyn (Zaphod) Evans at September 27, 2005 03:03 PM (/JF0D)

2 Then why can the religion of evolution be taught? It's a belief system, it just happens to be a very common one. Decades ago, most Americans were Christian, so Christian beliefs were taught in school. Now most Americans are apparently naturalists, so Naturalism, including evolution, is taught in schools.

Posted by: Ogre at September 27, 2005 03:13 PM (/k+l4)

3 The issue is not about religion versus science, ID versus evolution. It is about public education being a political issue. Anything, even the size of shoes, becomes a controversial topic if it becomes a matter of political force. In a free market for education, parents would put their money where their mouths are. Creationists would send their children to schools teaching creationism, if they valued it highly enough. Evolutionists would send their children to schools teaching evolution, if they valued it highly enough. My guess is that the issue of evolution/creationism would pale before others such as multiculturalism, environmentalism, moral relativism, and modern liberalism. Would you rather send your child to a school that teaches ID in Science, but multicultural hogwash the rest of the day?

Posted by: Tom at September 28, 2005 03:02 AM (BIAl1)

4 Oh- check this out http://catallarchy.net/blog/archives/2005/06/18/monosizean-shoes/

Posted by: Tom at September 28, 2005 03:04 AM (BIAl1)

5 And in this case it's not about anything BUT religion -- it's just that the ACLU and the 11 parents here are so intolerant that they will not allow anything other than their own religion to be taught in science class. Interesting link, I think...

Posted by: Ogre at September 28, 2005 06:05 AM (iJFc9)

6 Actually, I think Tom has a good point. If the FedGov wasn't doling out dollars to local schools (and WHERE in the Constitution is the authorization for THAT power?), this wouldn't be an issue. Personally, I don't think teaching ID constitutes a violation of the Establishment clause. I *do* think that it's bad science, but the quality of public education isn't a constitutional matter.

Posted by: Harvey at September 30, 2005 04:39 AM (ubhj8)

7 I certainly agree 100%. I don't think government, federal or otherwise, should pay one dollar for schools. And then ALL this would go away. And if government education were about quality...well, there'd need to be a lot more changed than just this one thing...

Posted by: Ogre at October 02, 2005 07:34 PM (iJFc9)

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