July 26, 2007
NC Voter Fraud
Democrats across North Carolina agree: voter fraud is good for Democracy. The Democrats in the Senate have now passed the bill that will allow and encourage YOU, yes you, to vote in North Carolina -- even if you don't happen to live here, or even if you're not a citizen of North Carolina.
Again, with the government newspeak. By "democracy," they mean "voting without restrictions, including meeting basic requirements like citizenship." So yes, if your goal is more votes cast, rather than more votes cast by actual citizens of the districts, indeed, this is "more" democracy. For all people who want to vote in North Carolina in the 2008 presidential election (no matter what state or country you are a citizen of):
It's as simple as that because Democrats want MORE people to cast votes, no matter what. Once again, welcome to the Democrat Party version of "free and fair" elections.
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This is more democracy for North Carolina and its citizens
Again, with the government newspeak. By "democracy," they mean "voting without restrictions, including meeting basic requirements like citizenship." So yes, if your goal is more votes cast, rather than more votes cast by actual citizens of the districts, indeed, this is "more" democracy. For all people who want to vote in North Carolina in the 2008 presidential election (no matter what state or country you are a citizen of):
Within a few weeks of the election (any day, really, in the 2-1/2 weeks leading up to an election -- whatever's convenient for you), get a copy of a bank statement. Try not to use a local bank (to you) -- but any BankAmerica or other nationwide bank will do. Use Google maps (or the Yellow Pages) to locate an address in the county in which you'd like to vote. If you want to vote in more than one county, feel free to obtain more than one address. Print out a label with your name (actually, any name will do, they're not going to check or anything) and the address in North Carolina. Place that label on your bank statement. Then show up at the local "early voting" location in North Carolina with that bank statement, and vote away.
It's as simple as that because Democrats want MORE people to cast votes, no matter what. Once again, welcome to the Democrat Party version of "free and fair" elections.
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voter fraud is good for Democracy?..I'll bear that in mind Ogre!..sheesh whata bunch of freaks!
Posted by: Angel at July 26, 2007 01:59 PM (F/15j)
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It all depends on how you define "Democracy." Democrats clearly include lots of votes, no matter their source or legality -- yes, they refused to allow Republicans to add ANY id requirements when they passed this law.
Posted by: Ogre at July 26, 2007 02:12 PM (oifEm)
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I'll ask you the same question that all "voter fraud" fear-mongers have (until now) been unable to answer:
How many illegal immigrants have been arrested for voting illegally?
Bonus point: name the state they were prosecuted in.
The answers are, of course, zero and none.
Which illegal alien would be stupid enough to bring attention to himself or herself and risk their worst fear: deportation!! ????
Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at July 31, 2007 02:38 AM (kcV1H)
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Apparently you're not very familiar with the North Carolina government system. How many illegal immigrants have voted illegally? Better yet, how many people have voted illegally?
The answers are that no one knows because the North Carolina government is simply not interested in answering that question. There is absolutely nothing in place to even attempt to locate or verify that any votes are legal or illegal. The system in North Carolina is set up to count all votes, no matter who cast them or how.
Posted by: Ogre at July 31, 2007 11:24 AM (oifEm)
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Please browse this concise description of Republican "caging lists" and how they are used to throw out votes cast by residents in predominantly black neighborhoods:
http://www.clcblog.org/blog_item-152.html
I would especially be interested in your opinion on how black veterans who put their lives at risk in Iraq on our behalf only to discover on Election Day that their names had been scratched off the eligible voter list (thanks to the organized Republican "caging lists" efforts).
Would you feel exactly the same way if, say, Hillary Clinton developed a similar "caging list" for Beverly Hills or Hilton Head and then used those lists to erase many likely Republican voters from the eligible voting list for their precincts?
Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at August 01, 2007 02:09 AM (jACyb)
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Please browse this concise description of Republican "caging lists" and how they are
used to throw out votes cast by residents in predominantly black neighborhoods:
http://www.clcblog.org/blog_item-152.html
I would especially be interested in your opinion on how black veterans who put their lives at risk in Iraq on our behalf only to discover on Election Day that their names had been scratched off the eligible voter list (thanks to the organized Republican "caging lists" efforts).
Would you feel exactly the same way if, say, Hillary Clinton developed a "caging list" for Beverly Hills or Hilton Head and then used those lists to erase many likely Republican voters from the eligible voting list for their precincts?
Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at August 01, 2007 02:41 AM (jACyb)
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So if I'm to understand your point, you're saying that since Republicans were caught in NJ in 1981 doing something that discouraged people from voting, that Democrats today, presumably to "punish" America, should engage in open voter fraud.
I disagree.
Posted by: Ogre at August 01, 2007 10:47 AM (oifEm)
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Not hardly.
If you broswe the URL you'll see these are recent events -- Republican "caging" occurred during the presidential elections in 2004 and are planned for 2008 (hence the reference to real Iraqi war veterans who were denied their right to vote after they returned from a foreign combat zone to the USA.
Questionable election processes are investigated by the U.S. Department of Justice headed by that shifty-eyed Gonzalez guy.
I wasn't advocating that Democrats do two wrongs to make it right. I asked for your opinion -- would you equally support Janet Reno if her administration were charged with Democratic "caging" of primarily Republican voters?
Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at August 01, 2007 02:11 PM (jACyb)
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You're just making suppositions based on, well, I don't know what. Instead, the post is about how Democrats have changed the laws in North Carolina to not only encourage massive voter fraud, but to actively work to ensure that no one gets punished for committing voter fraud in North Carolina.
Posted by: Ogre at August 01, 2007 02:13 PM (oifEm)
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I was curious to know if you consider the freedom to elect our government leaders among those important freedoms you claim our country is losing.
Republican "caging" efforts have denied voting rights to citizens in predominantly Democratic voting districts in 2004, and they are organizing more in 2008.
Are you concerned at all about preserving the U.S. Constitution, or are you O.K. with simply pledging allegence to der Fuhrer in the White House to ensure that his party remains in absolute control without any checks or balances on his party's power?
I'm getting a pretty good impression that you would be perfectly happy with a one-party rule of U.S. government, without any constitutional limits on their power, as long as it's the party which you believe in.
Say it ain't so, Joe ...
Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at August 02, 2007 12:29 AM (jACyb)
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Your impression is absolutely the furtherest from the truth. I would be much happier with dozens of political parties. I've rallied against the Democrats in North Carolina who de-certified the Libertarian Party in North Carolina, reducing choices. I've attempted to get Democrats in Raleigh to change the laws to allow MORE political parties in the state, but they strongly resist any attempts to introduce competition into their mob.
Posted by: Ogre at August 02, 2007 12:42 AM (GYzrk)
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