August 06, 2007

Nation of Laws, Part 2

The other day, I was musing about the lack of laws in America, and the fact that America was truly no longer a nation of laws. Harvey reminded me of an all too appropriate quote from Atlas Shrugged:

"Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?" said Dr. Ferris.
"We want them broken [...] There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

Is there anyone, anywhere, who can look at America today and contradict those statements? That clearly IS the system today.

Posted by: Ogre at 04:01 PM | Comments (4) | Add Comment
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1 Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for. And remember, a "terrorist" is whomever the Bush administration declares to be a terrorist. That means any U.S. citizen declared a "terrorist" by the Bush administration can be picked up off the streets and rendered to a prison in Egypt without any habeus corpus and held indefinitely without any trial.

Posted by: Will Rogers at August 09, 2007 12:43 AM (jWvfJ)

2 Or any US citizen declared a terrorist by any Democrat mayor, city council, or governor.

Posted by: Ogre at August 09, 2007 01:17 AM (GYzrk)

3 Well, uh, yes, I guess so ... Probably the best solution is to do as Colin Powell suggests, "I wouldn't close down Guantanamo tomorrow, I'd close it down this afternoon!" After all, we have 12 million people in prisons today, and they all had the right of habeas corpus and a legal defense, yet they were still convicted in our justice system. If a wiretap is justified, it is hardly a problem to get a judge to authorize surveillance. Warrantless wiretaps (approved by the Attorney General, no less, AFTER the wiretap has been done) serve only to harm or put fear in ordinary citizens. The U.S. Naval Officer who defended a Guantanamo detainee and won his case in the Supreme Court said he recommends that accused terrorists be tried as criminals in our federal judicial system. www pbs org/now/shows/331/index George Bush has set himself up as judicial, legislative and executive branch OUTSIDE the Universal Code of Military Justice, which the Supreme Court has ruled the Commander-in-Chief must obey, too. He is not above the laws of our nation.

Posted by: Will Rogers at August 09, 2007 04:30 PM (jWvfJ)

4 I refuse to say that the US should provide Constitutional protections for every person on the planet. If that's the case, well, we better start gearing up for A LOT more wars, because a lot of countries are going to oppose that action!

Posted by: Ogre at August 09, 2007 04:54 PM (oifEm)

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